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Post by LuftMotor on Jan 23, 2003 3:24:41 GMT -5
I am currently searching for a good low mileage '96 - '98 C2 coupe and hope to find a car soon. Although the narrow body appeals to me due to it's purity of form, I suspect the S bodies may in time be the more desireable and thus collectible 993. Also, are the handling characteristics of the S that much superior to the normal C2? I'd be grateful to hear from any current 993 owners as to their views on this. Thanks.
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Post by flpclp on Jan 28, 2003 18:36:15 GMT -5
I ran into the same issue 9 months ago. Ultimately I took the plunge and spent an additional $10,000 to buy a '96 C4S. My reasons for this were better handling, better braking, better looks and superior resale value. I didn't care much whether it was a C2S or C4S but couldn't find a good low mileage C2S. I do like the "big reds" though.
Does anybody kno whow many C4S/C2S cars were built from '96 to '98 and how many were imported to the U.S.?
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Post by Avidguy on Jan 28, 2003 20:50:58 GMT -5
Just a personal opinion... I bought a 95 C2 and then 6 months later (Jan 3rd) bought a 96C4s,,,the C4s is much more controlable and the reds do stop faster...and a there is more torque from the refinments to the engine...a better car I think. I still have both and will keep each one. You can throw the C2 around...but you can also lose it faster. (With my skill level)
Steve M.
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Post by LuftMotor on Jan 28, 2003 21:40:00 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the help. I was not considering the 4S up to now due to the extra complication and potential for more to go wrong. Interestingly enough, 4S's seem to be cheaper (advertised price) than a same year 2S out here in So. Cal.
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Post by flpclp on Jan 29, 2003 12:59:02 GMT -5
Interesting situation about pricing of C2S vs. C4S. Could be that there were fewer C2S cars built and that makes them more rare? When I shopped around on the East cost, I saw no price difference between C2S and C4S. There was however a premium of about $3000 - $5000 for the aerokit.
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Post by FAST911 on Aug 27, 2003 20:18:33 GMT -5
I have a 1997 carrera S only 759 made for U. S. that year. the color is metallic black not many in that color. my car has the same interior exterior combination of the wissach car that was built in 1980 in honor of plant engineers. only 200 of the 400 in 1980 had the metallic black.
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Post by ChipC4S on Aug 30, 2003 15:12:03 GMT -5
On the C4S question the following numbers were imported to US out 24,041 993s imported:
1996--1,091
1997--937
That's it none produced in '98 as they prepped to bring out the 996
Source: Bruce Anderson and PCNA
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Post by Dan on Sept 7, 2003 12:22:11 GMT -5
To bring some accuracy to this largely misleading thread:
There are NO non-cosmetic differences between the C2S & C2 (Carrera) - just bodywork & some interior trim. No performance/handling differences, although the top speed of the C2S is a bit lower than the C2.
The AWD C4S has whatever handling differences result from AWD. In that respect it's the same as the C4 (a much rarer model, BTW). The C4S is heavier than the C2 & has more drag, resulting in a lower top speed. The AWD's extra bite yields a faster initial time off the line & it is superior in the wet or snow. Many feel the steering feel in the AWD cars is not as nice as that in the RWD.
There are NO engine performance differences across the non-turbo std production models after varioram was introduced in MY '96.
The Big Reds don't stop any faster/shorter on the street, or even for most track use. The benefit of the Big Reds (besides bragging rights) is more fade resistence - a benefit that won't be experienced except for rigorous track use. The cost of BR pads is higher.
In the hands of a skilled driver, a C2 coupe will generally be faster around a dry track than a C4S (it's lighter & more "tossable") and would be the choice for a NA 993 track car.
Aesthetics are a personal decision. Some prefer the wide bodies, some the narrow.
If driven, none of the std production 993s will be collectables. These cars are not investments. The WB cars (incl the TT) cost more to buy & should, therefore, yield more when sold, but I'm not sure there's any difference in the ROI from the NB.
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Post by Matt Vaughan on Oct 27, 2003 23:35:37 GMT -5
On the C4S question the following numbers were imported to US out 24,041 993s imported: 1996--1,091 1997--937 That's it none produced in '98 as they prepped to bring out the 996 Source: Bruce Anderson and PCNA That's incorrect. There were '98 MY C4S's. |
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Post by jla3317 on Oct 29, 2003 14:43:25 GMT -5
I agree there were a limited number of MY 1998 C4S (993 Series)vehicles produced. I recently purchased a '98 C4S from the second owner near Jacksonville, Florida. He bought the car from Brumos Porsche. The dealer advertized the car as "VERY RARE - ONLY 50 BUILT." After I got the car, I contacted Brumos and they verified the claim. However, I do not know if the "ONLY 50 BUILT" refers to U.S./North America vehicles or world-wide production. My car was built in September, 1997, and was imported in late '97 or early '98 to Tampa. It will now be adjusting to winter in Wisconsin.
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Post by The Pope on Dec 24, 2003 20:19:53 GMT -5
FWIW, there were 298 Carrera 4S cars brought to North America. That's total USA and Canada.
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Post by midnight C4S on Jul 27, 2004 23:47:51 GMT -5
Pope please confirm, is that 298 C4S's imported to North America total including all years for 993 C4S's 1996-97-98, I've always wanted to know. Also is there a way to find out how many of each ext. color for each year, another curiosity. I've got a '96 Midnight C4S, hell to find, more hell to find without overinflated price by some guy who probably doesn't really want to sell his in the first place. Thanks.
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Post by The Pope on Jul 28, 2004 10:33:15 GMT -5
Pope please confirm, is that 298 C4S's imported to North America total including all years for 993 C4S's 1996-97-98, I've always wanted to know. That number is just for 1998. Sorry, I don't know the answer to your other questions re: colors. |
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Post by Patrick on Nov 28, 2004 14:33:38 GMT -5
I just picked up a high miles 1996 C4S for $33.7 and compared to the 993 C2 is a tad rougher ride and seems to handle not as quick for some reason ? The best handle I ever had was a 1996 C4 and the smoothest riding 993 was a 1995 C2 Cab.
Patrick
PS: I found some mods on the suspension oin the just purchased C4S '96.
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